www.pfaw.org — Martin Sheen narrates this video, produced by People For the American Way, about the history of separation of church & state and efforts by the Religious Right to undermine it.
Martin Sheen on Church/State Separation
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jamierourketen
July 29, 2010 at 2:03 am
most of the founding fathers were masons and in masonry there are many people of different beliefs,but in the lodge,they are not allowed to air these beliefs.so it should be in govt.
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 2:34 am
@MSP2222 I havent taken the quote out of context, my argument is whether or not government and religion should be together and the answer is NO they should not, government should not support ANY religion but should protect the free exercise of ANY religion, when someone refuses to pray in school, they shouldnt be punished for it and that is when government steps in and says no. You are trying to twist things again.
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 2:50 am
@StoogeWatcher I have never heard of koran being forced on kids in school, i have though heard about the bible, and it has happend right in front of me in High school. Let me make this clear for you, I am opposed to ANY religion being forced on someone.
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 3:04 am
@StoogeWatcher Aren’t conservatives the ones preaching repeatedly about liberals trying to destroy our liberties but yet what is going on with these four lawyers in California? What about wiretapping? Why didnt any of you conservatives cry out when your conservative lawmakers did this? Do you realize that most of the last 50 years conservatives have been in power for most of the time? Liberals arent “getting rid of christianity.
StoogeWatcher
July 29, 2010 at 3:12 am
@CVK92 Aren’t liberals the ones suing to get rid of Christianity? You talk about “separation of church and state” and keeping religion out of politics, so where are the protests when kids are forced to read Korans in public schools?
MSP2222
July 29, 2010 at 4:06 am
@ CVK92 , I am not twisting anything. The attitude you have is the attitude used to limit the public practice of religion. The Government uses your very argument to take religion out of schools, take it out of town halls, take it out of courts, take it out of universities. Had you read the letter and understood it, you would have seen the point Jefferson was making was that the Government had no business doing any of that. So the quote is out of context.
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 5:04 am
@StoogeWatcher Well Stooge, there is something you should know, most Liberals are Christian. I believe the far right religous nut jobs are hypocrites. But i wont go there, we will just stay with this, government stay out of religion, and religion stay out of government. “Wall of separation between church and state” simple as that.
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 6:02 am
@MSP2222 I have read it, Wall of separation between church and state means just that. The two have no business being combined, they are separated (wall of separation) theres not much else you can get out of those words other than they are to be separated. Also when did i say the wall of separation permits the government to limit the public practice of religion? I only said that it keeps religion out of government policies. Try not to twist things around.
TheHappo
July 29, 2010 at 6:08 am
@MSP2222 Freedom of religion by definition also permits freedom FROM religion.
StoogeWatcher
July 29, 2010 at 6:39 am
@CVK92 Yes, I’m Christian and I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of the anti-Christian left.
MSP2222
July 29, 2010 at 7:34 am
@ CVK92 , Read the letter. What Jefferson is saying is the exact opposite of what this video leads you to think. “The wall” was meant to prevent the government from making any law to limit any practice of religion. Not to permit the government to make any law limiting the public practice of religion. It’s nice you know the source now try reading it.
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 8:24 am
@StoogeWatcher i dont want any religion being pushed on anyone and i want EVERY religion out of government….Im a Liberal
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 9:18 am
@StoogeWatcher says? you? are you a christian?
CVK92
July 29, 2010 at 9:40 am
@MSP2222 “There should be a WALL OF SEPERATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE” written in a letter to Danbury baptist in 1802 by Thomas Jefferson. Noone can take those words out of context sorry.
newt0830
July 29, 2010 at 10:04 am
guess they couldnt find any muslim or jewish zealots…or preachers….
typical christian bashing
MSP2222
July 29, 2010 at 10:17 am
This entire video is ignorant. It shows the number of people that can’t read. The separation of church and state was not a founding principal. The quotes of Thomas Pain and of Jefferson are out of context.
MasterMark123
July 29, 2010 at 10:56 am
@StoogeWatcher
what are you … 12 years old ?
DeimosSaturn
July 29, 2010 at 11:29 am
@StoogeWatcher number one, I am not a muslim. Number two, I am not opposed to the bible being allowed in public schools, or korans. I specifically mentioned creationism being kept out of SCIENCE classes. Religious texts are perfectly acceptable in the context of historical significance and literary value, just not as moral or scientific fact.
StoogeWatcher
July 29, 2010 at 12:10 pm
@MasterMark123 Liberals are the American Taliban. THey are anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, and pro-Islam.
StoogeWatcher
July 29, 2010 at 12:29 pm
@DeimosSaturn Then keep your Korans out of public schools as well hypocrite.
StoogeWatcher
July 29, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Liberals are hypocrites. They want to get rid of Christianity, yet have no problem with Islam in public schools.
coerce1
July 29, 2010 at 12:52 pm
“I’m completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death. ”
-George Carlin, the best comedian who ever lived.
GoblinCobbler
July 29, 2010 at 1:40 pm
501 (c) NON-Profits creates an instant relationship between Church & State.
AmeriKa is a SCAM.
EvEN a Cancer Foundation (Secular) signs over their Conscience (ie GOD) to a Government.
WAKE UP!
MasterMark123
July 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Birth of the American Taliban ! We need to put and end to this now before it get’s to far out of control.
infantrypfc
July 29, 2010 at 2:23 pm
“limited Intelligence” I am a christian. I converted once I understood the commitment required. I had an IQ test a long time ago and I was pretty close to genius level… most of the people in my church are. We have one autistic guy but, he is still very intelligent, two guys that probably aren’t that smart but, they are also mentally ill… About 130 people though that are close to genius level and some of those far surpass it.