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which right do you think takes priority, freedom of speech or freedom of religion?

Question by : which right do you think takes priority, freedom of speech or freedom of religion?
I feel They are both equally important. Can you really have one without the other? If we take away peoples protection to worship. For example many states have tried to not recognize wicca as a religion thereby denying its followers the same protections under the law. therefore they can’t openly express how they developed there more code.in that case they don’t have freedom of religion or free speech. And other people are using religion to tell people they can’t act or speak in a way that goes against there religion. In effect using religion to justify censorship. What are your thoughts?

Best answer:

Answer by ἀντί χριστος
Speech, for it can cover both.

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Cool Freedom Of Religion images

A few nice Freedom of Religion images I found:

Albert Einstein On Palestine attachment
Freedom of Religion
Image by gnuckx
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April 10, 1948

Dear Sir:
When a real and final catastrophe should befall us in Palestine the first responsible for it would be the British and the second responsible for it the Terrorist organizations build up from our own ranks.
I’m not willing to see anybody associated with those misled and criminal people.
Sincerely yours,

Albert Einstein.

As stated by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) 11 December 1948
Having considered further the situation in Palestine,

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;
Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;

Free Palestine!

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Freedom of Religion
Image by gnuckx
As stated by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) 11 December 1948
Having considered further the situation in Palestine,

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;
Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;

Free Palestine!

Copyright note: This photo has been released to the Public Domain, or it is licensed under Creative Commons or cc0, or it falls under the doctrine of Fair Use as of United States copyright law, or I have received written consent by the author, rights owner, licensed source, or otherwise authorized by source to republish photos without any limitations. Therefore, anyone can republish this photo anywhere else in the Internet or any other publication in accordance to the legal copyright status of the photo. Please contact me through flickrmail should you feel you retain legal copyright rights to this photo. This photo has been published exclusively for didactical and/or historical purposes, and disemination is not only allowed, but also encouraged. At the very least, you are free to copy/link this photo as long as you recognize the source. Please don’t write me to ask further consent or inform about further use. Source: www.palestineremembered.com

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Nice Freedom Of Religion photos

A few nice Freedom of Religion images I found:

The Four Freedoms
Freedom of Religion
Image by IK’s World Trip
Burbank City Hall, Council Chamber, has this mural by Hugo Ballin. It’s 11×22 ft, and was inspired by F.D. Roosevelt’s "Four Freedoms" speech given at the signing of the Atlantic Charter. The freedoms are: speech, religion, want, and freedom from fear.

IN MEMORIUM: AMERICANS FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM…
Freedom of Religion
Image by roberthuffstutter
IN MEMORIUM: AMERICANS FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM…of a people in a far-away land who are not sure of what they want, freedom of religion or a religious state. That we are fighting for a people who are confused about tribal and religious loyalty on one hand, and freedom to live as they want on the other, lays our troops open to the games of the Islamic Terrorists and makes them easy targets. While the President is wise in using caution, it is time for a final answer to this problem. I can understand President Obama’s complex problems when it comes to commanding troops. This is one reason the President and all of his advisors need to go to the War Room instead of the Press Gallery. The energy exhausted in combating a Conservative press could best be used by calling a Military Brain Trust together in a secure room and decide the future of America’s role as a Super Power OR a Supernumerary on a United Nations Peacekeeping Force.

Q&A: Should a person be allowed to break the law in the name of freedom of religion?

Question by C.S.: Should a person be allowed to break the law in the name of freedom of religion?
For example, Native Americans are allowed to possess eagle feathers in violation of the Endangered Species Act.

This is a should question, not an ‘are’ question: so give me your ideal answers about whether freedom of religion should trump the law. (particularly when that law has no human victims).
On the Native American thing, they won a court ruling saying they could violate ESA. It wasn’t provided for in law, but was an exception made legally.

Best answer:

Answer by bdouglasharris
Yes, unless your religious beliefs entail violating the rights of others (i.e. keeping same-sex couples from getting married).

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Is it Freedom of religion or freedom to dictate other religions and beliefs?

Question by Jeffrey B: Is it Freedom of religion or freedom to dictate other religions and beliefs?
We see this allot. I personally think it is out of hand now. If someone expresses their religion in or at a public place or if a memorial is set up and that shows a cross why are people taking offense to this? I was brought up that if you see something you do not like ignore, or avoid it and move on. I was told that was my right. Now you see people getting sued all the time because they do not want people to publicly practice their religion.

Best answer:

Answer by kaganate
In these cases the specifics are very important —
The key is the consitutional structure of “religious freedom” which has two parts:
Government can not prevent people from practicing a religion or establish an official religion. So – to relate it to some real cases:
A school ball team has a prayer “in the huddle” — this feels like an imposition of religion from above (kids pressured into praying by a school official)
But on the other hand – if a single football player prays before the game – this is protected religious worship.
Or — memorials – a town builds a memorial with an overal religious symbol on it – the implication is that this is a message of an official town religion — Government establishing a religion — a no-no
Conversely – private businesses in the town putting up the same religious symbol on their property – that’s free practice and protected.

As an overal rule, imagine if the symbol was of a religion you are uncomfortible with — would you feel pressured?
So – for a last example – people may not notice anything wrong with a Christian motto on school jackets. So then – would the same folks be as comfortible if the school uniform included a Hijab?

What do you think? Answer below!

Skarsgård on religion and private schools

Stellan Skarsgård gives his view on religion and private schools. The interview was made by Fredrik Skavlan on a tv-show on svt.se
Video Rating: 4 / 5

Are we turning more so and more so into an authoritarian government who does not allow freedom of religion?

Question by no vanilla for me: Are we turning more so and more so into an authoritarian government who does not allow freedom of religion?
Or I should say, free expression of religion…What would make a teacher any more so influential than the president of the United State? Yet we allow the president to express his or her religious beliefs. And why shouldn’t we? Why shouldn’t all be allowed to pratice freedom of religion, why should we put restrictions on teachers?

Best answer:

Answer by Lucifer
We have plenty of freedom of Religion, but the tools will discriminate and hate you for it…. Unless you’re a Christian.

Doesn’t sound too much like religious freedom to me, but that is what they call it.

What do you think? Answer below!

Q&A: What do atheists think of Hein v Freedom From Religion Foundation?

Question by neil s: What do atheists think of Hein v Freedom From Religion Foundation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hein_v._Freedom_From_Religion_Foundation

A private citizen can’t challenge executive funding of churches. What do you think?

Best answer:

Answer by We Wish to Buy Your Shoes
I think I’m going to attempt to sue the pope.

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If you think that God grants and justifies human rights, does God endorse the right to freedom of religion?

Question by Pull My Finger: If you think that God grants and justifies human rights, does God endorse the right to freedom of religion?
Or if you subscribe to the theory that human rights come from God, would you then have to believe that freedom of religion is the one right you DON’T have, since most religions teach that their god considers the practice of other religions an abominable practice?

Best answer:

Answer by Lance
I have to say, on the face of things, let’s say from the Bible, that God’s record on human rights is not very good. He seems at best very capricious, and toys with people, testing them arbitrarily, punishing innocent and guilty alike; at the very worst, he seems to emulate quite accurately a modern day totalitarian dictator. Ancient Israel reminds me a lot of Soviet Russia or North Korea in terms of a Mr. Big ruling by fear and reward.

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Cool Freedom Of Religion images

Check out these Freedom of Religion images:

John Carmichael
Freedom of Religion
Image by The Norwegian
“Rev.” John Carmichael – President of the Church of Scientology in New York
gothamist.com/2007/08/14/rev_john_carmic.php – immediately after his attempt to recruit me to Scientology in New York 10th March 2008.

I told him not to question my intelligence…

I demonstrated against the Church of Scientology (CoS) in New York on the 10th of March, so it may seem a little strange to learn that I actually went to visit one of the CoS branches here in London over the weekend. What lead up to that was the tragic suicide of a Norwegian girl in Nice, France a few weeks ago, a few hours after taking the CoS’s “personality-test”. www.oca.scientology.org/ Her family claims it was due to the in part horrible test-results she got. The CoS response was something along the lines of "nobody else has done that, so why would she?", amid claims that she had long been suffering different mental issues, and that the church had only had a very short conversation with her…

Let’s just say I got curious, and wanted to find out a bit more than all the stuff you can read online will tell you. (http://www.xenu.net/)

Not that I was “curious” in the searching-sense. I am not (that) stupid.

While the questions themselves seemed a little silly (and _real_ psychologists condemn it as “a rubbish test of personality that will not give you any real answers”) I found the exercise rather entertaining. It said to print the survey-results out and bring them along to my local “church”, and they would give me the verdict. However “Tekmology” again proved incompatible with “religion”, so I ended up having to do the test again upon arrival…

The “score” wasn’t particularly shocking (I had, after all answered truthfully to all the questions, I even (stupidly?) used my real name and address…). What I found amazing was the classic sales-pitch I got when he went through it with me after.

It’s called FUDGE – first you sow Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, and then you give your “victim” Great Expectations.

Seeing as I knew what he was trying to do I wasn’t falling for it, and despite my reassurances that whatever the test revealed didn’t actually make my life a living hell (his clear implication), he kept asking the same inane questions again and again (he was clearly new). I told him I didn’t have enough money to pay for the £10 book that would redeem my life from the utter catastrophe it currently is (drug-dealers tend to give you the first dose cheap/free to get you hooked…and his ineptitude stopped me from feeling pity for him), but realising he wasn’t going to make a sale, he decided to go for broke, and asked me if I wanted to see a film…

A very bad mistake…

Up until this time I hadn’t found Scientology very offensive at all, it seemed more like an aggressive book-club rather than a maniacal cult. Stupid? Yes. Preying on the weak and vulnerable? Most definitely. But then they don’t differ too much from the other cults out there. However small or large those cults are…

To sum the film up (sorry, yes, I’m aware this is starting to look more like a novel than a comment…but…).

Young man plays American football and gets badly tackled.
Young man ends up paralysed in hospital.
Young man is seen to by completely incompetent psychiatrists (for a spinal injury?!?) and is (gleefully) told he will never walk again.
Young man tells his wife to be that she should find someone else to marry, as he will not be a good husband for her *violins playing*
Psychiatrists decides they will operate on young man’s brain (for a _spinal_ injury in the lower back?!?!?). Not to cure said young man, mind you “as that would put us out of a job”.
Young wife-to-be brings the book “Dianetics” along.
Young man reads book and starts not only walking, but jumping around!

Needless to say it wasn’t *exactly* a documentary…

I was offended at how it portrayed the medical profession (I have not been treated with anything but respect, and have had nothing but good experiences with doctors, and though I’m aware there are stupid doctors out there, I hold them in rather a higher esteem than the people behind this movie. I also believe the brain has immense power, and that you can probably go a long way to healing yourself (placebo-effect, anyone?), but this film was an affront to humanity.

What counfounds me is how anyone can fall for the pathetic lies of this book-shop-that-calls-itself-a-church…

Go figure.

This is my personal opinion, I’m not telling you what to think. Feel free to check it out for yourself, though I would strongly recommend you do something more useful with your time. Like play pocket-tennis. c",)

If you are "searching", go here: www.venganza.org/

Freethinkers title contest …
Freedom of Religion
Image by –Tico–
This is a photo I took in a Roman Catholic church in Bretagne, north France. The cobwebs struck me as a sign of the reduced importance that religion holds in Europe now. However, the idea that religions are sacred and should be exempt from satire is ever more present with the immigration to Europe of communities with different religions, especially Islam.

In the process of losing my Christian faith, on this issue I have now embraced the position as expressed by H.L. Mencken:

" … even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases, provided only he does not try to inflict them upon other men by force. He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge."

I want to test how many people are open to this idea on Flickr. If you agree with me and you can think of a satirical title for this photo, please post your suggestion below.
The contest is open-ended and therefore I will not choose a winner. For the sake of freedom of speech and creativity your effort is greatly appreciated. Some good suggestions also from the members in this group.

If you think this is wholly inappropriate, please make your argument!

Peace!

circle of cool
Freedom of Religion
Image by weegeebored
There’s a thing Eddie Izzard used to go on about:

How being cool & being a berk are right next to each other on a big circle and it’s very easy to suddenly find yourself doing one when you meant to be the other.

Fine line between genius & madness, and all that.

Anyway, I have to confess, when I first clapped eyes on Wolfie Smith here, I had him immediately assigned to the berk side of the line.

I mean, jesus wept, he’s got Frodo Baggins’s leather pixie-pouch and a ‘scuse me yes I’m not hallucinating, WOLF’S TAIL! hanging off his arse.

WOLF’S TAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention some weird litlle babydreads at the back of his barnet, giving him an unnecessarily additional air of Mulletedness.

If you force-fed me DiMethylTryptamine for a year, I don’t think I’d come up with doing anything as unforgivably ludicrous as this. Not in public. Certainly not in the middle of bloody Peckham at any rate.

But then, and I must be getting soft-headed in my dotage, it struck me that mostly I didn’t like the guy because he was young, doing an art course down the road, and gets to enjoy the company of pretty art student girls in dayglo outfits.

I was thoroughly jealous, in fact.

And, it further occurred to me: looked at in a fairer, kinder, less likely to stain the world with hideous bad vibes of putrefying bad karma & bitterness, sort of a way: the young feller me lad there is actually cool as ruddy heck, has really colossal balls, levels of chutzpah I could never dream of, and bloody good luck to him, what a dude.

Although the mullet-esque-ness he is indulging in is still a little hard for maye refayned sinsibilities to daygist, dontchaknow?

So, overall, you go for it Wolf Lad. Good on ya, cat.

For my part, I’m thinking of enrolling at Art College.

Only joking, art is the religion of the people who take masses of opium.