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Tubeusercomm
March 7, 2011 at 3:13 am
The IRS Chief Counsel and DoJ attorneys compete to get cases such as this.
These slam-dunks add in nicely to the win-loss record which helps determine their annual bonus.
Tubeusercomm
March 7, 2011 at 3:17 am
The court ordered that the names, addresses, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and Social Security numbers of every person who received materials on how to stop paying taxes be turned over to the government.
The District Court issued an order holding We the People Foundation in contempt of court, imposing fines of $2,000 per day.
On May 5, 2008, Schulz filed a document with the court asserting that he had turned the material over to the United States attorney’s office earlier that day.
Tubeusercomm
March 7, 2011 at 3:44 am
Banister has never won a failure to file case. He pays his taxes.
On August 27, 2008, the United States Tax Court ruled that Banister was liable for federal income taxes and penalties for failure to file his 2002 federal income tax return and report, as income, over $23,000 in a distribution from a retirement plan and other income.
Banister v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo 2008-201, CCH Dec. 57,522(M), docket no. 1356-06 (Aug. 27, 2008).
durango64
March 7, 2011 at 4:33 am
WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE GIVE A COPY OF YOUR CERTIFICATE FO EXEMPTION FROM WITHOLDING IN LIEU OF FORM W-4, AND A AFFIDAVIT OF TAX-EXEMPT FOREIGN STATUS….
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 4:37 am
@kbleuel You make an ass out of yourself when you make assumptions.
kbleuel
March 7, 2011 at 4:47 am
@kubush It has become quite clear that you are misinformed and like the general public are swayed not by fact, but by who can more eloquently deliver his argument.
you are interested only in a battle of intellect. in fact I don’t even think that you truly believe what you are arguing about. I bet you would try to persuade me into thinking that the Federal Reserve is a Federal agency.
prof5string
March 7, 2011 at 5:16 am
@dude58677 The most likely reason the word “direct” was rejected is that Congress wanted to repudiate the Supreme Court’s Pollock decision, in which a tax on investment income was held to be a direct tax on the underlying property. Use of the word “direct” might have implied that the Court’s reasoning was sound, which it wasn’t.
prof5string
March 7, 2011 at 5:26 am
@dude58677 Wages were taxed long before the 16th Amendment under the power granted by Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 6:22 am
@dude58677 Stop trying to shift the burden of proof.
“I’M DONE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
You conceded, therefor you lost the debate. It’s funny how the highest point in your argument was “BAWAWAWAWAWA…” LOL. Good luck not paying your taxes.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 6:41 am
@kubush
Yep, you porve my point. Name calling, arrogant debating, shifting the burden of proof on me(I went in detail about how the 16th amendment history refutes your bogus theory about wage taxes being constitutioinal BTW), and you call it all bullshit?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! BAWAWAWWAWWAWAWAAAAWAWAWA!!!!!!!! YOU LOST THE DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’M DONE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 7:25 am
@dude58677 I don’t give a shit about your idle threats. I can mark all your messages as spam just the same. You are the one that is repeating nonsense here. You are claiming that it is unconstitutional. I ask you how is it unconstitutional and your reply is that I haven’t proven that it is constitutional. You are an idiot.
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 7:28 am
@dude58677 “You are saying as long as the govenrment can violate the Constituton and get away with it in court”
No, I never said that. When did I say that the government can violate the Constitution??? Oh wait. I didn’t. You are just a fucking liar.
And you are claiming that original intent is on your side. So prove it or stfu.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 8:20 am
@kubush
I will block all your emails as spam. You just keep repeating the same lame argument over again, expecting different results. You have NOT proven that a universal wage tax is Constitutional and I gave you reasons you cannot prove it and yet you email me back with the same crap.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 8:53 am
@kubush
You are saying as long as the govenrment can violate the Constituton and get away with it in court, then it is perfectly fine. YOU have not proven there is original intent for a universal wage tax under the 16th amendment.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 9:03 am
@kubush
I know you will try to get the last word in with your total BS arguments. I have to close this debate out somehow. You haven’t proven your case and yet you won’t shut up.
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 9:20 am
@dude58677 I NEVER argued that “might makes right”. You say that I am taking the original intent of the 16th amendment out of context yet you haven’t proved what the original intent was. All you did was say, ‘look they excluded the word “direct” therefor income taxes aren’t legal.’ Talk about non sequitor. You haven’t proved original intent therefor you have no case.
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 9:36 am
@dude58677 LOL. That last one is a hoot. Cuz you know that your whole list is full of bullshit, so you had to put number 7 in order to get something right. LOL.
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 10:14 am
@kbleuel And it was ratified.
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 10:50 am
@kbleuel ” The IRS tax code is not the law” YES IT IS! The IRS Tax Code IS LAW!
kbleuel
March 7, 2011 at 11:05 am
@kubush The problem here is that you are confusing tax code with law. there is now law requiring an individual to file on wages paid for time. The IRS tax code is not the law nor are the agents law enforcement. Do they get away with screwing your world up if you don’t file? yes. Is it legal? No. Basically we are being duped because this law was never ratified. Don’t get me wrong i’m not against taxes just not on my wages. profit from property or goods is fine but not wages.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 11:58 am
@kubush
7) Deny all 6 things mentioned.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@kubush
5) Argue in a very arrogant tone of voice to give people the idea that if they disagree, then they are stupid.
6) Call people names when they see through you and if you can’t win the debate with someone stick around waiting for the next victim to prey on.
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm
@kubush
Here is your method of debate and you are NOT the first to do this regarding taxes:
1) Argue that it is ok for the government to bend the rules as long as they do not get caught.
2) Use character assassination on anyone who casts doubt about the arguments made by IRS advocates.
3) Resort to threats to anyone who disagrees.
4) Shove the taxes down people’s throats and try to shift the burden of proof on them that they do not owe the taxes. Prove your case or shut up!
dude58677
March 7, 2011 at 1:42 pm
@kubush
This is just a baseless assertion by claiming that “might makes right”. This doens’t prove anything. There is no reason to be in denial. All you are doing is taking the original intention of the 16th amendment out of context and resorting to threats. You know you have no case which is why you waste so much time trying to convince people for your baseless assertions. Prove your case or shut up!
kubush
March 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm
@dude58677 The government has the legal to tax. It is in the 16th Amendment and the IRS tax code. The Supreme Court has ruled on this issue several times and has repeatedly said that the govt does have the power.
You are now in denial. Please, don’t pay your taxes and go to jail. Then maybe you won’t go on youtube and leave ignorant comments.