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What to do when a PUBLIC school doesnt have a separation of church & state?

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Question by naomi j: What to do when a PUBLIC school doesnt have a separation of church & state?
My school doesnt receive federal funding and because of that they can basically set their own rules. The high-ups all follow one particular religious belief and this has been a sort of wall for many clubs in the school. If the school admins dont like what the club is about – too bad. Ironically, this has stopped the Christian Club from becoming official. Also, the GSA has not been permitted to meet and the Anime Club is unofficial. (Christian club is limited to putting up one poster in a designated spot, they cannot advertise is any other way, their website was taken off the schools club page, they cannot fundraise, etc. WHILE anime club can do all of the above.)

What to do what to do?
The club that I am a part of is the Christian Club – we exist as an unofficial club but we cannot do many things due to that.

Our school is run by taxes – the reason that I mention not being federally funded is because that excludes us from the Equal Access Act which was basically made for the sake of religious clubs and the GSA.

We turned down federal funding and faced a referendum a few years ago.

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Answer by J.Marie
I don’t really understand your question. BUT, I think you should write to your congressman or something about it. It sounds dumb, but it might make a little difference. Hope this helps!

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Activists Assaulted At Hawaii State Capitol (4/29/2010)

On April 29, 2010, activists Mitch Kahle and Kevin Hughes were assaulted by Ben Villaflor, the Senate Sergeant-At-Arms, and State Sheriff’s Deputies, for objecting to unconstitutional Christian prayers used to begin each session of the Hawaii State Legislature. Hughes was injured in the attack and was taken to the hospital for x-rays and treatment. Kahle was arrested and prosecuted, but was ultimately vindicated when Judge Leslie Hayashi found Kahle “NOT GUILTY” and ruled that: “The Senate’s [Christian] prayers violate the constitutional separation of church and state.” More to come . . . RELATED: Capitol protestor found not guilty Hawaii News Now – Nov 25, 2010 www.hawaiinewsnow.com Hawaii Citizens for the Separation of State and Church www.lava.net
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Latest Church And State News

Church rebuilt on faith
SPRINGFIELD – There is a roof, four walls, windows and doors, and a concrete floor. Eventually all the ornamentation and decor will be in place, but for now the interior of new home of the Macedonia Church of God in Christ has a maze of 2×4 frames and exposed electrical wires.
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Church Received Hefty Sum from Unclaimed Bonds
Earlier this week a church in Charlestown West Virgina received a check from a state’s unclaimed property fund or unclaimed bonds. The United Methodist Church was presented with the check just shy of of $ 10,500 by State Treasurer John Perdue earlier this week. The funds were discovered by the Purdue’s office field officer Roger Huges. The retrieved funds will be allo
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Q&A: is it true there is separation between church and state?

Question by Mark Rednibma: is it true there is separation between church and state?
I ask because the Constitution says nothing about separation of church / state. I believe this atavistic devotion to this manufactured separation impedes our progress in prosecuting the war on terror: it impedes our own admission that we are fighting a violent religion, and that to be successful, we must be true to our own religious heritage and wage war on behalf of it.

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Answer by William
Not in theocratic America.

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Christine O’Donnell First Amendment Separation Of Church And State

www.realestateradiousa.com | Is Christine O’Donnell real ignorant about the Costitution or is the media being horribly unfair?Where better to learn about the US Constitution than at a law school? Unfortunately for Delaware Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell, that education — which came at Delaware’s Widener Law on Thursday — was courtesy of her opponent in the race, Democrat Chris Coons, in the midst of their second debate. After scolding Coons for his lack of knowledge of constitutional law for stating that intelligent design should not be taught in public schools (a matter decided in a scathing decision in the case of Kitzmiller v. Dover School District), O’Donnell challenged her rival on his assertion that the US Constitution creates a distinct separation between church and state. “Where in the Constitution is separation of church and state?” O’Donnell asked. Upon hearing her words, the audience in the room burst into laughter. Video of the debate captures the moment at the 2:46 mark. Later in the proceedings, after fielding questions on the candidates’ views on repealing the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments, Coons returned the conversation to the question of the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. “I absolutely oppose the widespread proposals by tea party candidates for us to repeal the 14th, 16th or 17th amendments.” Coons said. “I also think you just heard, in the answers from my opponent, and in her attempt at saying ‘where is the separation
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Community Baptist Church celebrates opening of new M facility
ENGLEWOOD — The Community Baptist Church of Englewood celebrated the opening of its new building on Jan. 8 with two dedication services that filled the building with local and state officials as well as hundreds of members of the church.
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“Maybe I need to start going to church more,” the oft-injured Iowa State guard said Monday. “Maybe then I can talk to the big guy upstairs. “This is not fun.”
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Fundamentalist Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints


The exact number of members of the FLDS Church is unknown due to the relatively closed nature of the organization; however, its population has been estimated at between 6,000 to 10,000 in the twin communities of Colorado City, Arizona and Hildale, Utah.

The historic location of the church was in the twin communities of Colorado City, Arizona and Hildale, Utah. The church also has a long-standing colony in Bountiful, British Columbia.

Since the purchase of land now called the Yearning for Zion Ranch 6 miles (9.7 km) northeast of Eldorado, Texas, there appears to be a shift in the headquarters of the church, along with a large exodus of the “most faithful” church members. Other newer church settlements are 15 miles (24 km) southwest of Pringle, South Dakota and 6 miles (9.7 km) north of Mancos, Colorado.

Members of the FLDS Church have owned machine shops that have sold airplane components to the United States government. From 1998 to 2007, the receipts of these airplane components totaled more than .7 million.



See also: Mormon fundamentalism

The residents in the area of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona, have a long history of practicing plural marriage, dating to the mid-19th century. Brigham Young, then President of the LDS Church, once visited the area stating, “This will someday be the head and not the tail of the church.” The twin cities were once known as Short Creek, officially founded in 1913 as a ranching community.

The FLDS traces its claim to spiritual authority to accounts, starting with a statement published in 1912 by Lorin C. Woolley, of a purported 1886 divine revelation to thenDS Church President John Taylor. They see this 1886 revelation as precluding validity of the 1890 Manifesto against new plural marriages by church members, issued by Wilford Woodruff, whom the LDS Church recognizes as Taylor’s successor. After the formal abandonment of plural marriage by the LDS Church, many members around Short Creek and elsewhere continued, and even solemnized, plural marriages. In 1904, the LDS Church issued the Second Manifesto and eventually excommunicated those who continued to solemnize or enter into new plural marriages.

Short Creek soon became a gathering place for polygamist members of the LDS Church. In 1935, the LDS Church excommunicated the Mormon residents of Short Creek who refused to sign an oath renouncing polygamy. Following this event, John Y. Barlow began to lead a group of Mormon fundamentalists who were dedicated to preserving the practice of plural marriage.[citation needed] The location on the Utahrizona border was thought to be ideal for the group because it allowed them to avoid state raids by moving across the state line.

Some of the locally prominent men in Short Creek, after being excommunicated by the LDS Church, later became leaders of the Mormon fundamentalist movement, including Lorin C. Woolley, J. Leslie Broadbent, John Y. Barlow, Charles Zitting, Joseph White Musser, LeGrand Wooley, and Louis A. Kelsch. In 1932, these leaders created the organization known as the Council of Friends, a group of seven high priests that was said to be the governing priesthood body on Earth. The Council of Friends became the governing ecclesiastical body over the Mormon fundamentalists at Short Creek.

The early years of the movement were contentious and saw many differing interpretations and opinions among leaders as to how plural marriage should be practiced. These contentions eventually led to the subsequent schisms that created the multiple Mormon fundamentalist organizations that now exist, including the FLDS Church, the Apostolic United Brethren, and the Latter-day Church of Christ or Kingston group. It is commonly believed by all of these sects that the early leaders of the fundamentalist movement received revelations from God commanding that plural marriage should not cease.

FLDS splinter groups

In 1984, a schism formed within the FLDS Church just before the death of Leroy S. Johnson. A small group of FLDS took issue with the “one-man rule” doctrine that altered the leadership structure of the church and that was implemented fully when Rulon Jeffs assumed his position as sole leader of the organization. These followers took up residence just south of Colorado City, in Centennial Park, Arizona, calling themselves “The Work of Jesus Christ,” or “The Work” for short.

Also in 2002, after Warren Jeffs assumed leadership, Winston Blackmore, who had been serving in Canada as the Bishop of Bountiful for the FLDS Church, was excommunicated by Jeffs in an apparent power struggle. This led to a split within the community in Bountiful, British Columbia, with an estimated 700 FLDS members leaving the church to follow Blackmore.


The FLDS Church has been led by a succession of prophets, who believe themselves to have been called by God to lead. The first leader of the FLDS Church was John Y. Barlow, who led the community of Short Creek until his death on December 29, 1949. He was succeeded by Joseph White Musser, who was the church’s leader during a government crackdown on polygamy known as the Short Creek raid, in 1953, in which all the FLDS Church members of Short Creek were arrested, including 236 children.

Musser led the community until a contentious appointment of Rulon Allred to a high position of authority in 1951 angered some members of the Short Creek community. Musser had appointed Allred to be his successor, but Allred was not accepted as his successor by the Short Creek community. This led to a schism, with many followers breaking off and joining Allred; this offshoot became known as the Apostolic United Brethren. The core group in the Short Creek area instead followed Charles Zitting as its leader.

Zitting died in 1954 and Leroy S. Johnson was chosen to lead the church in Short Creek. Johnson led the FLDS Church until his death in 1986. He was succeeded by Rulon Jeffs, who assumed the position of prophet, a title his predecessor refused to use. In Jeffs’ later years, his poor health led to his son Warren serving as leader of the church in his stead, and upon Rulon’s death in September 2002, Warren Jeffs became leader of the FLDS Church. However, immediately after the state of Utah convicted him of being an accomplice to rape, it was widely reported in the press that Warren Jeffs resigned his leadership of the FLDS Church, though the statement made by his attorneys only addresses Jeffs’ resignation from his fiduciary post as “President of the Corporation of the President of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Inc.”

Since no public statements have been made by officials of the church indicating a successor to Jeffs, it is not known who may be leading the FLDS Church, though it is quite probable that Warren Jeffs remains at the church’s helm.

Leroy S. Johnson (died aged 98), 19541986

Rulon T. Jeffs (died aged 93), 19862002

Warren S. Jeffs (living), 2002resent? (jailed in 2007)

William E. Jessop, 20072010 (suspected leader)

Merril Jessop, 20072010 (de-facto leader)

Wendell L. Nielsen, 2010resent (President of the church’s corporate entity)

Legal trouble and leadership struggles

The home of former FLDS leader Warren Jeffs in Colorado City

In 2003, the church received increased attention from the state of Utah when police officer Rodney Holm, a member of the church, was convicted of unlawful sexual conduct with a 16- or 17-year-old and one count of bigamy for his marriage to and impregnation of plural wife Ruth Stubbs. The conviction was the first legal action against a member of the FLDS Church since the Short Creek raid.

In November 2003, church member David Allred purchased “as a hunting retreat” the 1,371-acre (5.55 km2) Isaacs Ranch 4 miles (6.4 km) northeast of Eldorado, Texas, on Schleicher County Road 300 and sent 30 to 40 construction workers from Colorado Cityildale to begin work on the property. Improvements soon included three 3-story houses, each 8,000 to 10,000 square feet (930 m2), a concrete plant, and a plowed field. After seeing high-profile FLDS Church critic Flora Jessop on the ABC television program Primetime Live on March 4, 2004, concerned Eldorado residents contacted Jessop. She investigated, and on March 25, 2004, Jessop held a press conference in Eldorado confirming that the new neighbors were FLDS Church adherents. On May 18, 2004, Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran and his Chief Deputy visited Colorado City, and the FLDS Church officially acknowledged that the Schleicher County property would be a new base for the church. It has been reported in the media that the church has built a temple at the YFZ Ranch, which is supported by evidence, including aerial photographs of a large stone structure (approximately 88 feet (27 m) wide) in a state of relative completion. A local newspaper, the Eldorado Success, reported that the temple foundation was dedicated January 1, 2005 by Warren Jeffs.

On January 10, 2004, Dan Barlow (the mayor of Colorado City) and about 20 other men were excommunicated from the church and stripped of their wives and children (who would be reassigned to other men), and the right to live in the town. The same day two teenage girls reportedly fled the towns with the aid of activist Flora Jessop, who advocates plural wives’ escape from polygamy. The two girls, Fawn Broadbent and Fawn Holm, soon found themselves in a highly publicized dispute over their freedom and custody. After the allegations against their parents were proven false, Flora helped them flee state custody together on February 15, and they ended up in Salt Lake City at Fawn Holm’s brother Carl’s house.

In October 2004, Flora Jessop reported that David Allred purchased a 60-acre parcel of land near Mancos, Colorado, (midway between Cortez and Durango) about the same time he bought the Schleicher County property.[citation needed] Allred told authorities the parcel is to be used as a hunting retreat.[citation needed]

In July 2005, eight men of the church were indicted for sexual contact with minors.[citation needed] All of them turned themselves in to police in Kingman, Arizona, within days.[citation needed]

On July 29, 2005, Brent Jeffs filed suit accusing three of his uncles, including Warren Jeffs, of sexually assaulting him when he was a child. The suit also named the FLDS Church as a defendant. On August 10, former FLDS Church member Shem Fischer, Dan Fischer’s brother, added the church and Warren Jeffs as defendants to a 2002 lawsuit claiming he was illegally fired because he no longer adhered to the faith. Fischer, who was a salesman for a wooden cabinetry business in Hildale, claimed church officials interfered with his relationship with his employer and blacklisted him. The claim against the company was thrown out because he was not fired from his job, but quit instead.[citation needed]

In July 2005, six young adult lost boys who claimed they were cast out of their homes on the Utahrizona border to reduce competition for wives, filed suit against the FLDS Church. “The [boys] have been excommunicated pursuant to that policy and practice and have been cut off from family, friends, benefits, business and employment relationships, and purportedly condemned to eternal damnation,” their suit says. “They have become ‘lost boys’ in the world outside the FLDS community.”[citation needed]

On May 7, 2006, the FBI named Warren Jeffs to its Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list on charges of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.

On August 28, 2006, Warren Jeffs was captured on Interstate 15 just north of Las Vegas, Nevada, after a routine traffic stop. Jeffs was tried in St. George, Utah, and a jury found him guilty of two counts of being an accomplice to rape.

The mayor of Colorado City, Terrill C. Johnson, was arrested on May 26, 2006, for eight fraudulent vehicle registration charges for registering his vehicles in a different state than he lived, which is a felony. He was booked in to Purgatory Correctional Facility in Hurricane, Utah, and was released after paying the ,000 bail in cash.

Short Creek raid

Main article: Short Creek raid

In the morning of July 26, 1953, 102 Arizona state police officers and National Guard soldiers invaded the fundamentalist Mormon community of Short Creek, Arizona. They arrested the entire populace, including 236 children. Of those 236 children, 150 were not allowed to return to their parents for more than two years. Other parents never regained custody of their children.

The Short Creek raid was the largest mass arrest of polygamists in American history, and it received a great deal of press coverage. After the raid, polygamists continued to live there; in 1960, Short Creek was renamed Colorado City.

April 2008 raid

Main article: YFZ Ranch

In April, 2008, Texas Child Protective Services, acting on what would later turn out to be a questionable tip from a person alleging systematic child abuse on the FLDS Church’s Texas compound, took custody of all 439 children under age 18 from the church’s YFZ Ranch, assisted by a large force of Texas Rangers who took control of the compound from April 3 to April 10. The raid generated intense press coverage in the U.S., especially in the Southwest, and also garnered international attention. On May 29, the Texas Supreme Court affirmed an appeals court ruling that Texas CPS was not justified in removing every child from the ranch and ordered the children to be returned to their parents.

The tip that prompted the raid is now believed to be a false report, instigated by Rozita Swinton. Rozita Swinton was later to face criminal charges based upon this false report and is believed to have filed similar false reports in the past.

Birth defects

The Colorado City/Hildale area has the world’s highest incidence of fumarase deficiency, an extremely rare genetic condition. Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town’s founders, Joseph Smith Jessop and John Yeates Barlow. It causes encephalopathy, severe mental retardation, unusual facial features, brain malformation, and epileptic seizures.

Distinctive doctrines

Plural marriage and placement marriage

See also: Exchange of women

The FLDS Church teaches the doctrine of plural marriage, which states that a man having multiple wives is ordained by God; the doctrine requires it in order for a man to receive the highest form of salvation. It is generally believed in the church that a man should have a minimum of three wives to fulfill this requirement. Connected with this doctrine is patriarchal doctrine, the belief that wives are required to be subordinate to their husbands.

The church currently practices placement marriage, whereby a young woman of marriageable age is assigned a husband by revelation from God to the leader of the church, who is regarded as a prophet. The prophet elects to take and give wives to and from men according to their worthiness. This is also called the law of placing.


In general, women do not cut their hair short or wear makeup, pants, or any skirt above the knees. Men wear plain clothing, usually a long-sleeved collared shirt and full-length pants. Men and women are forbidden to have any tattoos or body piercings. Women and girls usually wear monochromatic homemade long-sleeved “prairie dresses,” with hems between ankle and mid-calf, along with long stockings or trousers underneath, usually keeping their hair coiffed.

Property ownership

The land and houses occupied by the FLDS Church on the Utah/Arizona border are owned by the United Effort Plan (UEP), which was once a subsidiary organization of the church. The UEP also owns most of the property of the businesses that are controlled by FLDS Church members in that area. The church views this “United Order” as a means of living the traditional Latter Day Saint doctrine of the “Law of Consecration.” The Attorney General of Utah filed a lawsuit and seized the holdings of the UEP for the current residents of Colorado City and Hildale. The Attorney General is seeking to distribute the assets of the UEP to the FLDS Church members and ex-members who contributed to the UEP. In 2005, a court order froze the UEP pending a resolution of the lawsuit. At the time of the court order, the UEP was worth 0 million.

Home schooling

In 2000, the Colorado City Unified School District had more than 1200 students. When Jeffs ordered FLDS Church members to pull their children out of public schools, the number declined to around 250.

Temple worship

The FLDS Church is the sixth Latter Day Saint denomination to have built a temple.

Criticisms of the church

See also: Criticism of Mormonism and Criticism of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Plural marriage

A view of the FLDS ranch in Eldorado, Texas

At the time of his death, church leader Rulon Jeffs was confirmed to have married 22 women and fathered more than 60 children. Current estimates state that Warren Jeffs may have upwards of 60 wives. As the type of polygamy practiced is polygyny, critics of this lifestyle claim that its practice inevitably leads to bride shortages and likely to child marriages, incest, and child abuse.

Critics assert that members of the church are violating laws when they participate in polygamy. Critics claim that incest and sexual abuse of children are prevalent among church members.

Lost Boys

Main article: Lost boys (polygamy)

It has been reported by former members that the FLDS Church has excommunicated more than 400 teenage boys for offenses such as dating or listening to rock music. Antagonistic former members claim that the real reason for these excommunications is that there are not enough women for each male to receive three or more wives. Six young adult men, ages 18 to 22, filed a conspiracy lawsuit against Jeffs and Sam Barlow, a former Mohave County deputy sheriff and close associate of Jeffs, for a “systematic excommunication” of young men to reduce competition for wives.


In its Spring 2005 “Intelligence Report,” the Southern Poverty Law Center named the FLDS Church to its “hate group” listing because of the church’s teachings on race, which include a fierce condemnation of interracial relationships. Warren Jeffs has said, “the black race is the people through which the devil has always been able to bring evil unto the earth.”

Blood atonement

Former FLDS Church member Robert Richter reported to the Phoenix New Times that Warren Jeffs has repeatedly alluded to the 19th-century teaching of “blood atonement” in church sermons. Under the doctrine of blood atonement, certain serious sins, such as murder, can only be atoned for by the sinner’s death.

See also

Caliente, Nevada: FLDS controversy

Escape (Carolyn Jessop and Laura Palmer book)

Former FLDS members

Lost boys (polygamy)

Under the Banner of Heaven

Polygamy: What Love Is This?


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^ http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351969,00.html |Texas Polygamy Case: Based on a Hoax?

^ http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/04/20/rozita-swinton-flds/

^ Dougherty, John (2005-12-29). “Forbidden Fruit”. Phoenix New Times. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2005-12-29/news/forbidden-fruit/. 

^ Hollenhorst, John (2006-02-08). “Birth defect is plaguing children in FLDS towns”. Deseret Morning News. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635182923,00.html. 

^ “Doctor: Birth defects increase in inbred polygamy community”. Daily Herald. 2006-02-09. http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/165069/. 

^ Szep, Jason (2007-06-14). “Polygamist community faces rare genetic disorder”. Reuters. http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0727298120070614. 

^ Bayley JP, Launonen V, Tomlinson IP (2008). “The FH mutation database: an online database of fumarate hydratase mutations involved in the MCUL (HLRCC) tumor syndrome and congenital fumarase deficiency”. BMC Med. Genet. 9 (1): 20. doi:10.1186/1471-2350-9-20. PMID 18366737. PMC 2322961. http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2350/9/20. 

^ Kerrigan JF, Aleck KA, Tarby TJ, Bird CR, Heidenreich RA (2000). “Fumaric aciduria: clinical and imaging features”. Ann. Neurol. 47 (5): 5838. doi:10.1002/1531-8249(200005)47:5<583::AID-ANA5>3.0.CO;2-Y. PMID 10805328. 

^ “Three wives will guarantee you a place in paradise. The Taliban? No: welcome to the rebel Mormons”. The Daily Telegraph. 2003-10-19. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1444578/Three-wives-will-guarantee-you-a-place-in-paradise.-The-Taliban-No-welcome-to-the-rebel-Mormons.html. 

^ Bonnie Ricks. “Review: The Sixth of Seven Wives: Escape from Modern Day Polygamy”. The Institute for Religious Research (irr.org). http://www.irr.org/mit/sixth-of-seven-wives-br.html. 

^ Rick Ross (2002-04-06). “The polygamist women of Colorado City”. rickross.com (self-published). http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy10.html. 

^ Shaffer, Mark (2005-06-23). “Polygamist sect loses grip on towns”. The Arizona Republic. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0623polygamy23.html. Retrieved 2008-06-13. 

^ “Bust-up in Bountiful: Timeline: History of Polygamy”. CBC News. 2008-04-12. http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/bustupinbountiful/timeline.html. Retrieved 2008-05-24. 

^ Howard Fischer (2005-08-11). “State officials prepare to seize control of Colorado City school district”. Arizona Daily Star. http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/88285.php. 

^ The other five are the Church of Christ, the LDS Church, the Community of Christ, the Apostolic United Brethren and the Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

^ Wade Goodwyn, Howard Berkes and Amy Walters (2005-05-03). “Warren Jeffs and the FLDS”. NPR. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4629320. Retrieved 2007-04-24. 

^ Dnofrio, Eve (2005). “Child Brides, Inegalitarianism, and the Fundamentalist Polygamous Family in the United States”. International Journal of Law, Policy and the Family 19 (3): 373394. doi:10.1093/lawfam/ebi028. http://lawfam.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/19/3/373. 

^ Tracy, Kathleen (2001). The Secret Story of Polygamy. Sourcebooks. ISBN 1570717230. 

^ Llewellyn, John R. (2006). Polygamy’s Rape of Rachael Strong: Protected Environment for Predators. Agreka Books. ISBN 0977707210. 

^ Daniels, April (1993). Paperdolls: A True Story of Childhood Sexual Abuse in Mormon Neighborhoods. Recovery Publications. ISBN 0941405273. 

^ Moore-Emmett, Andrea (2004). God’s Brothel: The Extortion of Sex for Salvation in Contemporary Mormon and Christian Fundamentalist Polygamy and the Stories of 18. Pince-Nez Press. ISBN 1930074131. 

^ Ted McDonough (2004-09-23). “Lost Boys Found”. Salt Lake City Weekly (reprinted at rickross.com). http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy250.html. 

^ Nancy Perkins (2004-08-28). “FLDS Church, leaders sued by 6 ‘lost boys'”. Deseret Morning News (reprinted at findarticles.com). http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040828/ai_n11472255. 

^ David Kelly (Los Angeles Times) (2005-06-19). “Polygamy’s ‘Lost Boys’ expelled from only life they knew”. The Boston Globe. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/06/19/polygamys_lost_boys_expelled_from_only_life_they_knew/. 

^ “Hate Groups Map: Utah”. Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLCenter.org). http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp?S=UT&m=5. 

^ “In His Own Words”. Intelligence Report (Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLCenter.org)). Spring 2005. http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=342. 

Further reading/viewing

Bistline, Ben The Polygamists: A History of Colorado City, Arizona

Bradley, Martha Sontag Kidnapped from That Land: The Government Raids on the Short Creek Polygamists

Watson, Marianne T., “FLDS Placement Marriages”

Hales, Brian C. (2007). Modern Polygamy and Mormon Fundamentalism: The Generations After the Manifesto. Greg Kofford Books. ISBN 1-58958-035-4. .

Quinn, D. Michael (1998), “Plural marriage and Mormon fundamentalism”, Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 31 (2): 168, http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/dialogue&CISOPTR=10335&REC=20 .

Krakauer, Jon: Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith (July 15, 2003)

Carolyn Jessop and Laura Palmer. Escape. Broadway Books, October 16, 2007

Van Wagoner, Richard S. Mormon Polygamy: A History

“The Primer” – Helping Victims of Domestic Violence and Child Abuse in Polygamous Communities. A joint report from the offices of the Attorney Generals of Arizona and Utah.

Van Wagoner, Richard S. (1999). Mormon Polygamy: A History. UK: Prometheus Books. ISBN -10: 0941214796. 

Wall, Elissa (2008). Stolen Innocence. New York: Harper Collins. 

Main Street Church. Lifting the Veil of Polygamy (2007). A documentary film on the history and modern-day expressions of Mormon polygamy, including numerous testimonials.

Hoffman, Claire (June 2008). “Satan’s Accountant”. Cond Nast Portfolio Magazine. http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/05/12/Profile-of-Polygamist-Sects-Lawyer. – An article about Bruce Wisan who was brought in to try and return property to the members of the FLDS group at Short Creek, and was met with great resistance. As featured on This American Life.

External links

Wikinews has related news: 401 children from Texas sect compound taken into custody

Official sites

Information about the FLDS Faith


“Audio clips reveal FLDS leader’s teachings”, The Eldorado Success (text and audio)

Damned to heaven : A critical documentary about Colorado City and FLDS Church

FLDS El Dorado, Texas Current and archived aerial photographs of the community and new temple

Banking on Heaven Has accusations against the FLDS

Lifting the Veil of Polygamy Includes interviews and testimonials of former FLDS members

“FLDS 101”


and : Information on Utah Attorney General’s Lawsuit against the United Effort Plan


“Polygamy and Me: Seven months have passed since the polygamist raid in Eldorado, but for one mainstream Mormon, the effects linger,”

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Discussion on the Issue of State Sanctioned Religious days and later they talk about June and marriage.

Integrated Pre-Civil War Church in Mississippi

A few nice Church and State images I found:

Integrated Pre-Civil War Church in Mississippi
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On the south side of Rt. 370, across the highway from Brice’s Cross Roads National Battlefield Site, is the Bethany Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church. During the battle of Brice’s Cross Roads, Bethany Church was across the street from its present location. The church served as a field hospital following the June 10, 1864, battle.

The Bethany A.R.P. Church Cemetery, in use for more than 150 years, is also the burial site for 96 Confederates that fought and died as a result of the battle. Union dead from the battle have been re-interred to the National Cemetery in Memphis, Tennessee.

A historic marker at the church states that it was organized in 1852 with 25 charter members, including 4 African-Americans. The fact is, integrated churches were not unusual in the antebellum South. Even with the deplorable institution of slavery, the pre-Civil War South was more racially integrated than much of the North, which had very restrictive anti-black laws.

After his visit to America in the 1850s, Alex De Tocqueville, the French historian observed that "Race prejudice seems stronger in those states that have abolished slavery than in those where it still exists, and nowhere is it more intolerant than in those states where slavery was never known."

Had there been on War, slavery would have soon ended peacefully in the South, just as it did in the North, and many more Southern churches and other institutions would have remained integrated.

Northern atrocities of the War Between the States, followed by 12 years of Federal occupation and abuse during the disgraceful period called "Reconstruction," exacerbated a racial divide that would not be overcome in America for 100 years.

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Black and white conversion, upped contrast, reduced noise. Texas State Capitol seen from behind First Methodist Chuch on Lavaca at 12th Street in Austin, Texas.

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