more at cnn.com President Barack Obama, May 21, 2009
Obama Delivers Address on National Security, Torture, Gitmo
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Bigstubby1
July 8, 2010 at 2:46 am
No. Proper SERE techniques were designed to build resistance to the damage torture inflicts to allow our people to escape with minimal damage. They were not designed for and are not effective at extracting useful information. From a neurophysiological perspective, torture damages the brain such that reality is confused. It’s similar to extreme post traumatic stress syndrome. Throughout history, torture has be used to extract false confessions. See CSPAN congressional testimony of SERE experts.
Bigstubby1
July 8, 2010 at 3:23 am
Obama’s strategy is a departure from the past and politically risky domestically but is the best strategy to stop the inevitable cycle of violence. By publically disavowing torture and detainee abuse he removes the single effective Al Qaida recruitment strategy for otherwise moderate muslims:that US morals and ideals are suspect and that the US policy is based on eradicating Islam. If you want an example of a destructive cycle of mutual violence I refer you to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
JuniorFactor
July 8, 2010 at 3:50 am
I totally agree with Bleazy225. I don’t understand Obama’s political agenda and how it’ll benefit anyone. Check out our channel and you’ll see our reaction to torture and Gitmo.
LinFahrenheit2
July 8, 2010 at 3:59 am
what do you know?
incrowdcynic
July 8, 2010 at 4:57 am
Try to keep up.
incrowdcynic
July 8, 2010 at 4:58 am
“I can stand here today as President of the United States and say without exception and equivocation, that we do not torture… … …If we fail to turn the page on the approach that was taken over the past several years, then I will not be able to say that.”
joskemom
July 8, 2010 at 5:52 am
So Pres Obama has defined waterboarding as torture. Is he going to forbid the navy seals to be waterboarding as part of their training? The word torture has been so ‘watered down’ that ANY discomfort of a terrorist can be considered torture. A guy who says it is ok to let a baby, who survived a botched abortion, to die on the table is going to talk to me about high moral standing?? When life is conceived is above his paygrade yet he is going to define words for me? Ah hell no.
joskemom
July 8, 2010 at 6:37 am
I am tired of hearing Pres Obama whine on about his version of mistakes America has made in the past. The man is so full of himself. It is soo easy to 2nd and 3rd guess decesions made by Pres Bush as he was in the middle of a fight against al queda. Now that al queda has been reduced to a bunch of fools running around in the mountains Pres Holier-than-thou wants to cast judgements on the way Americans were kept safe. What the hell does Obama know about keeping us safe?
Bleazy225
July 8, 2010 at 7:09 am
Obama is a weak, knaive, empty suit that spews bumper stickers. Cheney is just telling the truth about what it took to keep US safe, Obama just wants to score political points, not to mention the fact that he wont release the info we got from the interogations. Oh and again putting underwear on someones head or dunking them in water is not torture, but beheading someone after beating and starving them is, Liberals are so phony, you could care less about safety for your country. Disgraceful.
sunsinger357
July 8, 2010 at 7:54 am
Both Bush and Obama AND BOTH political parties have sold/are selling us ALL out with regards to our national debt! The debt is a far greater threat to our way of life than even terrorism. Check out the video I.O.U.S.A and fight back against the lack of leadership in our government.
GaddingImp
July 8, 2010 at 8:16 am
Obama = hope, Cheney = fear
Obama = follow laws, Cheney = break laws
Forget about Cheney. The people are on Obama’s side. He needs to just focus on making plans to put into action.
Taino187
July 8, 2010 at 8:18 am
Dueling speaches…
Prez Obama is a Constitutional lawyer, I would tend to take his word over any “Dog Poop” coming out of Cheney’s mouth anyday!
Taino187
July 8, 2010 at 8:57 am
Ahhh the national archives! A building Bush/Cheney never wanted to enter and avoided by every means possible since those horrible pieces of parchment dictating our laws, rights, rules of government, systems of powers, rules of engagement in wars etc are housed there.
DAMNED THOSE PIECES OF PARCHMENT… Cheney was heard muttering as he past by! Why cant we just rule this country with an IRON FIST like the Nazi’s did theirs and the friggin Commies!
Ohh how i admire them… “Cheney wept!”
🙂
monetarydemise
July 8, 2010 at 9:49 am
Can someone please explain to me what obama meant by this statement at 3:35 “If we fail to turn the page on the approach that was taken over the past (something) years… then I will not be able to say that as president” I have no idea what his answer means to his own question. The logic does not flow at all. I believe the teleprompter edited out the answer as he was speaking and replaced it with “i will not…” Anyone?
Rainsdad
July 8, 2010 at 10:04 am
they aint going to gen-pop, they should just go in the ground, but they will prob end up in the fed. max. sec. fac. in Co. so the tax payers can support them here in America, why cant we support them in Cuba, why do we have to support them at all, but that takes me back to putting them in the ground.
rmonclairwalker
July 8, 2010 at 10:37 am
The Constitution, how can any American diminish the fundamentals of it, and speak poorly of a leader trying to reinstall the confidence of it?
How long do you think those terrorist prisoners would last in a US prison? Right now there in an all boys club of their own, put them into general population in a US jail and let prison politics deal with them.
dkkght46
July 8, 2010 at 11:31 am
By upholding values will shield us from Terror Comment by President Zero
So lets examine this: beliefs in which they have an emotional investment (either for or against something) will shield us from terror. Israel has it right, Obama is stupid and childish. For anyone to believe that Values will shield you from hijacking planes, blowing up buses-trains-temples with explosives, bio-chems or beheadings in downright niave. Obama has no real view, God help us.
ehkinoh
July 8, 2010 at 11:34 am
yeah… they wont be sent home… they will be sent to our neighborhoods…?
no, they’d be sent to supermax prisons while awaiting trial.
What a dumbass. gtfo with your fear mongering.
sugarpuddin88
July 8, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Preventative Indefinite Detention
Right after condemning Bush operating outside the law, Obama announced today that he will: Develop a legal strategy outside US Law & Military Law to indefinitely detain people who MIGHT commit a crime! What he calls preventive indefinite detention, (just like in the Tom Cruise Movie, Minority Report)!
So you can be locked up for 10 or more years without any trial, indictment, or hearing because of what someone thinks you MIGHT do sometime in the future!
TheNoel
July 8, 2010 at 12:33 pm
When the president starts talking about a “climate of fear,” I’m reminded of Patrick Swayze’s character in Donnie Darko.
Jerzeegeemoney
July 8, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Oh yea,someone needs to remind Cheney that over 500 detainees were RELEASED under the Bush /Cheney admin.Two out of three returned to fight.NONE have been released under Obama’s watch.Cheney and the republicans should also be ashamed of politicizing terrorism and 911.
Jerzeegeemoney
July 8, 2010 at 2:26 pm
I find it facinating when ppl say “not in my backyard!”Let me get this right it’s o.k for CONVICTED murderers and rapist to be in “your backyard” in the prison down the road but it’s not ok to house “terrorist” who have never been given due process or charged with anything in the prison down the road???..What ?
AstoundedAtheist
July 8, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Oh please……
Where is the off switch, on this broken record player?
AstoundedAtheist
July 8, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Oh, Im sorry, dkkght46. I was unaware that you know every single Gitmo detainee on a personal level. Grow up, friend.
beaglenuts55
July 8, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Fabulous! Cheney handed Obama his ass today.