On the 13th of October 2007, at the Freedom From Religion Foundation Christopher Hitchens responds to an audience members question on supposed “crimes” commited by the American Government in Iraq and Afghanistan. The individual who asked the question obviously did not do any research before asking the question, or decided to ignore the facts.
iConcerts – Rock – REM & Co – Celebrate South Africa www.i-concerts.com South Africa Freedom Day Concert On The Square took place on Sunday 29th April to mark the seventh anniversary of South Africa’s first free elections and to recognize the achievements of the past seven years. Dr Nelson Mandela joined Tony Blair and over 20000 people in central London to enjoy this incredible day. The concert features a cast of international and South African musical stars including but not limited to REM, Dave Stewart, Atomic Kitten or Billy Ocean.
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beeroosterm
October 5, 2011 at 6:03 am
@AliceNchainz011 Sorry, I meant an unequivocal fag.
beeroosterm
October 5, 2011 at 6:23 am
@berrylict Yes.
beeroosterm
October 5, 2011 at 6:37 am
@AliceNchainz011 SHUDDUP, you equivocal dick!
ihatebobsaget1989
October 5, 2011 at 6:45 am
sad that he is dying now.
AliceNchainz011
October 5, 2011 at 7:29 am
I actually think both Hitchens and the questioner were right in their own respective ways. Radical muslims are intolerant, without question and they shouldnt be coddled by spineless leftists. At the same time, I think the U.S. would be better off stopping trying to influence the politics of such barbarians and let them rot. That way they have no one to blame but themselves for their lot in life. I think Ronald Reagan had it right when defending his decision to withdraw troops from Lebanon
benaberry
October 5, 2011 at 7:34 am
Hitch can ham it up, but why the hell not, he’s on a stage.
berrylict
October 5, 2011 at 8:04 am
Am I the only one who thinks that Hitch is being a bit hysterical here?
chessiemace
October 5, 2011 at 8:37 am
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zackhanscom
October 5, 2011 at 9:18 am
he has no respect for the little people
QuestionForAtheists
October 5, 2011 at 9:50 am
A question for atheists. In a world where there’s no proof of God’s existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
ZF1000
October 5, 2011 at 10:12 am
@sazji You have to ask yourself the question why the Middle East is so backward and undemocratic compared to the rest of the world. The answer is not ‘actions by Christian nations.’ It is easy to blame foreigners for being in a bad situation. India suffered much more from colonialism than the Middle East yet Indians harbour no resent towards the West today and have created the most populous pluralist democracy in the world. Muslim Pakistan by contrast has regressed into barbarism and self-pity.
sazji
October 5, 2011 at 10:26 am
@ZF1000 ‘The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete’ – Yes, they were, and are. This is the resentment which Al-Qaida has taken advantage of. As for “taking responsibility” – how? Each person is responsible for his own actions. I don’t “take responsibility” for Orthodox Christians’ massacres of Turkish villagers in 1915. I admit it was horrendously wrong, just as most Muslims don’t see the actions of a government as justification for slaughter of innocents.
ZF1000
October 5, 2011 at 11:09 am
@sazji I did read your post and understood you very well. You said ‘The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete’ and that Al Qaeda ‘rode on the back of the already-present hate for the west’ and I retorted by saying ‘It is a complete falsehood to suggest Al Qaeda was born out of Muslims being oppressed by Western imperialism.’ You entirely avoided answering my point about Muslims taking responsibility for Islamism and my comparison with the democracy of India.
sazji
October 5, 2011 at 11:11 am
@ZF1000 I didn’t say it was; if you think I did, you didn’t read my post. I said that the general resentment towards the west grew out of western (and not just US) imperialism and meddling. Al-Qaida took advantage of that resentment and uses it to its own political ends. My point is, if it weren’t for an already-present resentment of the west, and for pretty logical reasons, Al-Qaida would have had nothing to draw upon.
ZF1000
October 5, 2011 at 11:50 am
@sazji It is a complete falsehood to suggest Al Qaeda was born out of Muslims being oppressed by Western imperialism and having had enough with foreign interventions; no, I won’t accept that. Islamism surfaced without the help of the outside world and Muslims have to take responsibility for that. You can’t just shirk blame by pinning it on outsiders. India suffered immensely during partition but it became a pluralist democracy and is now one of the fastest growing economies in Asia.
sazji
October 5, 2011 at 12:47 pm
@ZF1000 Oh come off it; that’s a lame-ass Bush-ism, that nobody would have dared be so stupid to put forth prior to the Great Imbecile. Go to Iran today; you’ll find that most people have no trouble with you at all, they just resent British and US politics that fucked their country for decades. Talk to a Palestinian who has lived his entire life in a refugee camp. Talk to an Iraqi whose brutal dictator was supported by the US until it became inconvenient to do so. Put yourself in their place.
ZF1000
October 5, 2011 at 1:14 pm
@sazji That ‘already-present hate for the west’ of which you speak was stoked and fueled for decades by Islamic dictators and mullahs throughout the Middle East. Resentful of western prosperity and freedom despite possessing what they regarded as a superior holy book they created a counterpart ideology rooted in resent and superstition. This inferiority complex manifested itself in resurgent extremist Islam.
sazji
October 5, 2011 at 1:26 pm
The actions by Christian nations that led to an Islamic response were concrete: the US supported a coup that extinguished Iran’s only democratically elected government and supported the Shah’s brutal regime instead. It supports Israel almost unconditionally. The USSR invaded Afghanistan, and the US supported the Taliban against them. Al Qaida wasn’t the initial response; it came later and rode on the back of the already-present hate for the “west.”
sazji
October 5, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I’m usually with Christopher Hitchens but not on this one. All of his examples of Islamic craziness are post-Islamic radicalism. The question is not whether there is Islamic radicalism and violence in the name of Islam; it’s what drove people to it in the first place. What led to Al Qaida, what gave rise to the Taliban, who supported Saddam as he gassed his own people, what actions by the US left the Iranians little choice but to organize around religion? He avoids the question.
sundayraver
October 5, 2011 at 2:45 pm
hitchslap!
deluxmatty01
October 5, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Hitchens is AMAZING! One fail swoop is all it takes to point out the lunacy of the left in this regard. One hand is held up in protest against oppression, the other is held up to prevent anything be done about it whilst at the same time loudly chest- thumping and accusing America of attempted ‘colonization’ and oil theft.
Funny ,but we’ve been there 9 years and the nations at the front of the que in the oil auctions are the same ones that opposed it in the first place. hmmmm
jazber14
October 5, 2011 at 4:05 pm
@LegendaryAsshole theologically your wrong by technical definition a jew can refer to somebody belevies in the god of the old testement or to somebody that traces the heritage to one of the tribes of the old testement or somebody that thinks the laws of moses are the best laws for a civilization as a matter of fact the only aberhamic philosophy that states belief in god is necessary is islam
MrViTopol
October 5, 2011 at 4:06 pm
@kolkrabe19 retard. nothing can be explained to a redneck like u.
MrViTopol
October 5, 2011 at 4:47 pm
@pejj1 idiot. there’s no your type of spelling in Hebrew
kolkrabe19
October 5, 2011 at 4:49 pm
@pejj1 Explain to me the philosophy behind Jewish parasitism.
cookiedude225
October 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RIP R.E.M.
aggisdemetri
October 5, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Nothing good lasts forever, hold on to it as long as you can and enjoy it, love it treasure it, and be prepared to give it up one day.
ALFREDO1993ification
October 5, 2011 at 5:35 pm
PUES OSEA SON E.R.M.
RuleTheRadio23
October 5, 2011 at 5:49 pm
So will they do a farewell tour?
duinhaas1
October 5, 2011 at 6:37 pm
@MultiSilversky
Right, right, right for more than 100%!
dadaholic
October 5, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Amazing R.E.M. we’ll remember you for ever!!!!
ThePotatoe777
October 5, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Michael Stripe is in World War Z
🙂 I is happy now
MacMark2
October 5, 2011 at 7:41 pm
THX R.E.M
MultiSilversky
October 5, 2011 at 8:01 pm
GREAT BAND! YOU’LL NEVER DIE! MISS YOU!!!
gerlisa10
October 5, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Ihr seid einfach eine tolle Band gewesen, eure Musik bleibt für die Ewigkeit
aviadts1978
October 5, 2011 at 8:44 pm
i`m losing my r.e.m …
Luddddeluxe
October 5, 2011 at 9:09 pm
THX R.E.M. – One of the greatest bands on this planet. Every story comes to an end and this story ended too early. 🙁
Hiddenjazz
October 5, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Losing my R.E.M. Thx for all!
EchtFad
October 5, 2011 at 10:25 pm
R.I.P. R.E.M.
ymarmash
October 5, 2011 at 10:29 pm
you’ll be missed
MarcolinoBa
October 5, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Great Band…R.E.M forever!
rsproslayer
October 5, 2011 at 10:54 pm
🙁
Mrmakevelijughuyokii
October 5, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Im 26, was in my early teens when i first heard R.E.M from my older sister, right now i wish i was 8 years older so i could experience this.
Griesmayer
October 5, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Goodbye R.E.M. You’re history, now.
francescobasini
October 6, 2011 at 12:22 am
si sono sciolti i REM!! 🙁 che amarezza!
353jack
October 6, 2011 at 12:54 am
losing my religion ? the new religion name is R.E.M.
TheFrediJo
October 6, 2011 at 1:36 am
Glee <3
diogoolivi
October 6, 2011 at 1:56 am
por que o michael sempre tem d fazer essa dancinha gay no começo dessa música?
JuanLeFou
October 6, 2011 at 2:05 am
YouTube… there are 8 dislikes, please fix it
alaslaviento
October 6, 2011 at 2:54 am
MUCHO EL TEMA DE R. E. M. CLÁSICO MUY BUENO!!!!!