25 comments on “Evolution vs. Creationism: Freedom of Religion”

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  wingsovertheworld3

  May 27, 2010 at 2:32 am

  Several religions coexist with Evolution as exampoles Wicca, Deism, and many types of Paganism, and also evolution does not disprove anything like magick telepathy, afterlife, ghosts etc and witchcraft, to me the supernatural does not exist anything even ghosts and the afterlife must be natural and explicable.

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  Windlightesh

  May 27, 2010 at 3:32 am

  @ragnarlava Atheism is a disease. It is a typo cancer. It kills the soul rapidly and makes you hate everything—everybody, especially religious people. Your soul becomes bitter full of hatred and your mouth full of poison/venom. It contaminates the world; it rejects reasoning it causes harm in the heart of little ones. Most of the time in the heart of ignorant/ irrational people. Atheists become irrational by it. LETS SAY NO to that cancer—toxic monkeys/apes.

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  Windlightesh

  May 27, 2010 at 4:20 am

  Atheism is a disease. It is a typo cancer. It kills the soul rapidly and makes you hate everything—everybody, especially religious people. Your soul becomes bitter full of hatred and your mouth full of poison/venom. It contaminates the world; it rejects reasoning it causes harm in the heart of little ones. Most of the time in the heart of ignorant/ irrational people. Atheists become irrational by it. LETS SAY NO to that cancer—toxic monkeys/apes.

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  gcnengineer

  May 27, 2010 at 4:31 am

  @Allen78x I’ve seen the special. The Dover approach was wrong. It’s why they lost. That doesn’t change what I said. Something has been misunderstood here, you are saying that you used to think that evolution is what happens after you get life and now you think it happens before you have life?

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  Allen78x

  May 27, 2010 at 4:59 am

  @inabeana
  The only contovercy is because creationist are fundamentallist with political clout! I can have a preacher pray for me, but if I am going to have brain surgery, I am only going to use a qualified surgeon to work on me.

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  Allen78x

  May 27, 2010 at 5:31 am

  @gcnengineer
  I used to think this, but you can watch the PBS special here about the Dover schoolboards controvercy about that whole thing. Of pandas and people made the asssertion that there were no transitional forms, and argued for irreducible complexity, which was dissproven in court by Ken Miller. ID is creationism in duisquise and opend the door for even astrology to be taught in the science classroom, or that Noah’s flood carved out the Grand Canyon. ID is the oppisite of evolution.

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  gcnengineer

  May 27, 2010 at 5:33 am

  This woman is mistaken. ID is not the opposite of evolution. Evolution is what happens after you have life. ID is how you get the life. If life came from non-life, we would call that the beginning of life, not the evolution of non-life.

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  MessianicTsalagi

  May 27, 2010 at 6:27 am

  She claims that the Creationist Movement is a threat to religious freedom. In actuality, teaching a scientific theory that contradicts most religions as an absolute truth is a threat to religious freedom. It’s like taking all these children of Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc. faiths and telling them, “Btw, all you’ve ever been taught is a lie and your scriptures are all bologna.”

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  MessianicTsalagi

  May 27, 2010 at 6:53 am

  I see where this lady is coming from. However, shouldn’t it be (at least to an extent), the right of the parent if they don’t want the concept of evolution to be taught as scientific doctrine? She is wrong about this theory not going against others’ beliefs. Evolution is not benign to religious belief. It DOES contradict many religions’ teachings.

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  jjukil

  May 27, 2010 at 7:06 am

  @tendele7 “no solid science”

  No, it’s all there. You just need to look at it.

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  tendele7

  May 27, 2010 at 7:40 am

  So Many Frauds (Haeckels Fraud) & no solid science makes Evolution more a faith. Ramapithecus regarded as ancestor of man now recognised as extinct Orangutang, Piltdownman hoax based on human skull & orangatangs Jaw, Nebraska Man based on single tooth proven a pigs tooth, Java man, Australopithecus Africanus, Peking man, & famous Ceolocanth fish all frauds. Dr Colin Patterson & Dr Gould all confirm there are no transitional forms. Education is based on Question & answer. She doesnt like that

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  lizazoon

  May 27, 2010 at 7:55 am

  inabeana You kind of miss the point. It`s not evolutionists against creationists, it`s evolution against creation. One is science and is constantly under review, the other remains fiction, as long as no scientific evidence is provided.

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  dreimdmon

  May 27, 2010 at 8:31 am

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  ragnarlava

  May 27, 2010 at 8:35 am

  the evolution theory is no more religious than the theory of gravity or the nuclear theory for that matter. Do not underestimate what a scientific theory really is. I can tell by what inabeana says, that she is not familiar with the consept and seriousness of a scientific theory. It´s not guesswork and it does not require at leap of faith!

  The theory of evolution is just as valid as the nuclear theory. That must for the sake of the argument mean that the nuclear theory also is a religion!?!

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  casmos11

  May 27, 2010 at 9:10 am

  @inabeana evoluttion is not a clam its a theory a clam is when you say just say something like clouds are pink that is a clam there is no proof and i know that saying clouds are pink makes no sense but what im saying is: if i said the earth was flat im claiming that (ok really dont say the earth is not flat i know im just trying to give an example)

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  lsjtifo

  May 27, 2010 at 10:06 am

  Noted and thank you.

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  inabeana

  May 27, 2010 at 11:03 am

  Faith is a leap. There are many scripts. Scientific Law is a leap, and are few and far in between. There are many theories. I believe in God and Jesus but I dont call myself a creationist. I believe things can evolve, I do not call myself an Evolutionist. There are so many reasons for my Faith. But my point is Evolution and Creationism are so extreme on circular spectrum that they actually meet on some pivot. But they are too busy making sure they stay categorized as wut they r, they miss things

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  inabeana

  May 27, 2010 at 11:58 am

  Kind of like cloned puppies chasing their own tails at the same pace but in opposite directions. Evolutionary beliefs evolved from curiosities, then to a concrete conclusion and explaination about things that have already existed first. Then what they see are things to come into existance partly through their IMAGination. And creationist conclude things in concrete existance now to had already been in existance, created by the IMAGination,Will , Thought or Claim of The Creator.

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  inabeana

  May 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm

  Im reading all this and even though I am a Christian and even though I am open to other thoughts without necessarily accepting them (Also having an Anthropology background)…I have come to one very simple and very broad conclusion that makes sense to me. Evolutionists and Creationists argue so much because they are just alike. Both make claims to believe in something. A Claim might was well be testimony. I see them both as Religions.

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  inabeana

  May 27, 2010 at 12:59 pm

  being open minded doesnt mean you have to accept anything. it means you can simply understand and have a tolerance for it/that/whatever

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  inabeana

  May 27, 2010 at 1:40 pm

  wonderful ^_^

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  Oreceo

  May 27, 2010 at 1:56 pm

  Typo:
  2nd line up from the bottom…

  -of- criticisms of other…

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  Oreceo

  May 27, 2010 at 1:56 pm

  Okay – if Creationists or IDers were to teach creationism or Intelligent Design what would that consist of….?
  As far as I can see nothing but a criticism of Evolution or other biological sciences…
  Neither Creationism nor ID has a theory of its own…Its substance consists solely ot criticisms of other disciplines and does not supply any viable workable data of their own…

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  topdogtomiii

  May 27, 2010 at 2:51 pm

  Forrest is right. ID promotes a specific religious view because it is a view of how life formed that requires supernatural intervention to have happened. Evolution is the explanation of a natural process that does not require supernatural intervention, but leaves the window of belief open. To present evidence of common ancestry is only a challenge to the religious views that deny common ancestry, as the involvement of a deity is left to the individual’s beliefs.

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  freshhh1994

  May 27, 2010 at 3:47 pm

  Your argument is based on ignorance. Just because we do not know what happened before the big bang does not mean we will not find out eventually.