FULL VERSION WITH THE SECOND EPISODE ! Three former Jamaican Fundamentalist Christians tell their stories about how they entered Islam and how it has changed their lives. The Enslaved Muslims from West Africa Recent scholarship on the Atlantic slave trade has revealed that the total number of Enslaved Africans brought to the Americas is likely to be more than twenty million. Slyviane A. Diouf, writing on the Muslim slaves in the Americas, conclusively asserts: “Therefore, if counted as a whole, on a religious basis rather on an ethnic one the Muslims were probably more numerous in the Americas than any other group among the arriving Africans”. In Jamaica from 1655 to 1807, Philip Curtin in his work on slave census, proposes 423900 Africans from Muslim dominated areas, representing 56.8 percent of the arrivals. Islam had cut across ethnic lines, social classes and state boundaries in West Africa— Senegal, Gambia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Mali, Benin, Ghana, and Nigeria, Libya Egypt (incorporating Madinka, Fula, Susu, Ashanti, Hausa and other nations) from as early as the tenth and eleventh centuries, ie long before the slave trade. Islam in these kingdoms was first diffused by the migration of Muslim merchants, teachers, and agricultural settlers. The Muslims sometimes formed peaceful minorities in non-Muslim societies such as the Ashanti Empire. In cases such as Kano, Katsina, Takrur and Bornu the local chiefs accepted Islam as early as the tenth and eleventh centuries.
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nerd853
November 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm
i am a muslim alhamdulilah <3 this show is very interesting (:
MrAnold
November 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm
I love Islam.
TheSayfullah114
November 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Mansha allah
ksmile3m1
November 26, 2011 at 7:46 pm
may ALLAh bless these these brothers in jamaica islam is everywhere coming from MUSTAFA from h town
doghartdon
November 26, 2011 at 8:27 pm
jamaican people are very smart and deep thinkers, its about time they are noticing the truth mashallah, i have watched the previous episode where the african pastor debates the jamaican muslim and this episode looks vrery interesting
pantherlake2002
November 26, 2011 at 8:52 pm
cool host and inspiring stories. mashallah. May Allah reward you guys.
t10parwani
November 26, 2011 at 9:19 pm
subhan Allah, InshAllah all of Jamica will become muslims..Jamican ppl or so nice and modest ppl..Love from Afghanistan
sfjohn5
November 26, 2011 at 9:43 pm
where can i down load this an burn it to cd
bukkietime101
November 26, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Masha’Allah
Zakariyya21
November 26, 2011 at 10:13 pm
mashallah imported now it must be deported
javed119
November 26, 2011 at 10:13 pm
mashallah brothers well come to islam. may peace and blesse of Allah (SWT) be up on all of you. may Allah (swt) keep u strong in iman.
78hafsa
November 26, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Alhamdulillah my brother’s..I love the fact that they each did their own personnal research and from there Allah guided them to the truth ! Islam is simple it’s easy and no one forces you to Islam Allah and Allah alone guides whom He pleases……MashaAllah…..rise Jamaican Muslim……Love it ~
78hafsa
November 26, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Alhamdulillah my brother’s..I love the fact that theyeach did their own personnal research and from there Allah guided them to the truth ! Islam is simple it’s easy and no one forces you to Islam Allah and Allah alone guides whom He pleases……MasshaAllah…..rise Jamaican……Love it ~
EnterTheTruth
November 27, 2011 at 12:05 am
MashAllah Jamaican Muslims Rise Up!!!
BlueEyedGypo
November 27, 2011 at 12:11 am
i hope Christians take this seriously!!!! and do not be ignorant to the signs.
Ask, research and KNOW!!! what is the truth!!!
shahjee273
November 27, 2011 at 1:01 am
The Host is excelent humble person. god bless him.
shahjee273
November 27, 2011 at 1:41 am
The Host is excelent humble person. god bless him
shahjee273
November 27, 2011 at 1:44 am
The Host is excelent humble person. god bless U.
marcb2raw
November 27, 2011 at 2:11 am
I might not agree with their beliefs but these guy explained themselves and their point in one of the best ways I ever heard.
TheMalikmuhammad
November 27, 2011 at 2:33 am
Excellent interview representing the diversity of spiritual thought in Jamaica.Ian Boyne’sprobing and well researched style in an asset to Religious Hardtalk. The muslim brothers explained their individual/collective experiences with clarity,cultural dignity and intelligence.Give thanks.Salaams
TheMalikmuhammad
November 27, 2011 at 3:11 am
This interview is fair,balanced and typically probing as per the unique style of Ian Boyne.The muslim brothers represented themselves with clarity,cultural relevance and intelligence.Religious Hardtalk relects the mature aspects of thinking in Jamaica. Give thanks
TimothyGeorgeHare
November 27, 2011 at 3:19 am
youtube.com/watch?v=sTXOkMQ6GeA
Watch4
November 27, 2011 at 3:49 am
Holy shit I felt the pwnage in my core.
GTLyxp
November 27, 2011 at 4:33 am
wow that’s some good vocabulary you got there
DanGraywolf
November 27, 2011 at 5:22 am
Awesome response(:
cryvsspy
November 27, 2011 at 5:51 am
this would be more entertaining if you weren’t a mona lisa with the lips and eyes cut out reading a prompter
WhoreOfBabylon02212
November 27, 2011 at 6:44 am
The Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. Stacy Trasancos is a Catholic, not a Christian. The USA is a Christian country. Only Christians are deserving of rights and freedoms.
Yes it is true that when gay perverts hold hands in public that it is no different that having buttsecks in public. But what about Catholics? They worship the antichrist. Catholics holding hands in public are no better than gays holding hands in public.
40gabe
November 27, 2011 at 7:09 am
Good video. As an ex-conservative catholic I think the best way to help bigots work through their fears is to emphasize that in a liberated society, order will not disappear. The conservative mind, like mine, gets it’s jollies on the concept of order. Gays made me fear the end of classical arts, architecture, and just western style in general. Conservatives fear an unchecked relativism that is impossible anyway; order and novelty are two sides of the same coin, imo.
Xel963
November 27, 2011 at 7:46 am
I wish I could get a good look at that t-shirt… It’s going to bug me just what it says.
LikelyMost
November 27, 2011 at 8:05 am
I love this video so much. Zinnia ROCKS. Also, I wonder if that ignorant woman (the one that prompted this response) has seen this video! She really should see it.
sarastar777
November 27, 2011 at 8:13 am
I agree. Gays are no different for anyone else. I’m not gay but I support your logic. 🙂
garudagal23
November 27, 2011 at 8:43 am
your logic and presentation beats the profs i had in philosophy classes–way to go and keep making your vids; they are needed and help–thank you
infideluxe
November 27, 2011 at 9:03 am
@Be4TinGyoU
Change over time reveals your words as wishful thinking. Better check your values while the rest of us are making progress.
Have a look at your “supposed to’s” while you’re at it. You know what else is “just wrong”? Fellatio and cunnilingus. Our mouths are for breathing….err….eating, and, um, talking! Also, feet are supposed to be for transportation. Pedaling a bicycle or a piano’s sustain pedal – just wrong! It’s not supposed to be like that.
Filby
November 27, 2011 at 9:11 am
The logic! It burns!
Be4TinGyoU
November 27, 2011 at 9:19 am
Gay couples shouldn’t be allowed children, a man and a woman are supposed to raise a child not 2 women or 2 men, it’s just wrong! Gays will never be fully accepted in society, they will always be scoffed and laughed at for the lifestyle they choose to live.
Stephanie3410C
November 27, 2011 at 10:14 am
(cont 4) time again. There aren’t too many believers that agree with me that evolution is real, but it makes sense to me. You might be wonder why I am going on this rant? I would really love it if more believers and non believers would simply learn to be able to talk without getting so mad that there heads are going to explode! So far in my lifetime I’ve only talked to one Atheist that respected me in the same way that respected him. Ironically he was a classmate in my social psych class.
Stephanie3410C
November 27, 2011 at 11:13 am
(cont 3) I should do a spoof of “Daydream Believer,” called “TransDay Conceiver.” lol. I don’t always agree with you ZJ, but as one of the few believers that actually open their ears to reason, I respect you. I will add one thing, I am not living in a fairytale, that is probably what I have disagreed with you most on. You see No God, and I see that there is one. I don’t have scientific proof, but I don’t need it. If religion is a construct of man so is science. Both are proven wrong time and
Stephanie3410C
November 27, 2011 at 11:39 am
(cont 2) Recently I’ve been seeing a few more believers standing up against this total BS or narrow-mindedness that has ruled most churches (different sects) for far too long, but it is not nearly enough. People are people and “Christians” are supposed to love regardless. Like you said she can meditate all she wants about how impure those gay people are, but trying to keep them out of the park crosses the line from views, to imposing her views upon them.
Stephanie3410C
November 27, 2011 at 12:03 pm
(cont) own way with God, and it doesn’t fall in line with the church or their interpretation of the Bible then in their eyes that person is on the wrong path and being deceived. If God is angry at anything He probably is pissed off that most people keep trying to shove Him into this teeny-tiny itty-bitty box. There are a few of us believers out there that like to talk to people of other faiths or non-faiths, sharing & discussing views, without imposing, compelling someone to change or else.
Stephanie3410C
November 27, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Well said ZJ! I agree wholeheartedly. I might even be more displeased with Christians like the person that you are responding to in this video. It is for reasons like this that I no longer refer to myself as a Christian, rather I am a believer in God that also believes in Christ. Secular Christianity leaves no room for God to be God, most secular christians that I’ve talked to want to pound the gavel and claim that they know the way, the truth and the light. And if a person tries to do it their
Tatsuyoujo
November 27, 2011 at 1:07 pm
One less hateful person I have to look at. Fuck her. I feel bad for her kids, tho.
800988
November 27, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Dear ZJemptv…
Would you marry me? No, really! Call me…
Seanaci
November 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm
You are AMAZING! I couldn’t have said it any better. Thank you thank you thank you! We are living in an ever evolving and changing world. It saddens me that religion does not and is not evolving and changing as well. I for one believe it should evolve and change. I for one plan on raising my child to accept everyone for who they are. I want him to embrace the world and not be afraid to question what he may not understand. And I will/would love him no less if he was gay. 🙂 <3
SpectacularNumanist
November 27, 2011 at 2:30 pm
@RASVW
No, you disrespect him just like any other father who abandons his family for his own sexual desires. be they gay or straight desires.
ApplyUrBrain
November 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm
ZJ: You have made an enormous mark on the world—already, at such a young age. So many people leave the world worse than they found it. Thank you for making it SO much better than you found it. I can only imagine, if you live to your life expectancy, what a mountain of good you will have done over time. Your talent at logic and writing is greatly enjoyed and appreciated.
RASVW
November 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Respect and hate… Is that the only choice you think I have? What am I supposed to think when the husband of a dear young couple I know forsakes the responsibility of being a father and runs off with gays? Respect?